September 14th, 2015, 7:25 pm

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[Posted by scribblerian on September 14th, 2015, 7:25 pm]


Character consistency is such a pain. So are poses that people put themselves into every day (panel 1), and yet nobody snaps a photo of this sit-in-progress for reference!

I'm quite pleased with myself, though, for getting 8 panels into this page without it feeling super crowded.



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[Posted by erzadel on September 14th, 2015, 11:55 pm]


I think maybe the chibi heads are more appropriate! I didn't realize it was the both of them talking. Somehow I assumed it was the TV or something, haha.

Anyway, I really love this style. Faving for more!



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[Posted by scribblerian on September 15th, 2015, 5:52 am]


@erzadel: thanks for your input! I'll draw the heads tonight then. You thinking it was the TV (or something) is exactly what I was afraid of!

I'm glad you like it! My updates are a little slow due to lots of distraction around here... but I'm thinking once I get a little further in I'll be able to update more quickly.



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[Posted by Oly-RRR on September 16th, 2015, 12:27 am]


I like panel 1 but yeah, those poses ARE HARD!!!

And those games don't sound like good games... D:

And since you asked I'll be honest - I really don't like chibi heads. I think it's worth having a few more panels with proper visuals (but then I'm not a fan of anything chibi and only like very Western-influenced anime like Studio Ghibli stuff). Here are some ideas on how to do it without drawing full body shots every time (old but good) - http://www.judgefrazer.com/WallyWoods.jpg



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[Posted by scribblerian on September 16th, 2015, 5:49 am]


@Oly-RRR: I'm like you, I dislike chibi, manga, anime, whatever it is all called. But I've seen it done well in other comics. I wanted it to look like sort of a back and forth quick banter, which is why I did it in bars rather than drawings.

Okay, I'll admit it. A little laziness crept in there as well. You're right, it would probably look better to just give it panels. Or maybe just extend the one, add the other character and make them speech bubbles.

Perhaps a project for another day. I already want to redo at least panel 1 on page 1. However, I have made my peace with page 2 and don't mind it so much now. I'm trying not to get sucked into the redo loop.

Have you heard of those games before? I was going to mention the Kim Kardashian one, but decided it would be best if I not use any real person's name in this. Such dumb things these challenges are.



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[Posted by Oly-RRR on September 16th, 2015, 4:52 pm]


@scribblerian: Yeah, I dunno - I try to nip my own lazy shortcuts in the bud but I think everyone has it happening at one point or another. But yeah, it could even be one panel with multiple bubbles, I think your bubbles are clear enough to handle that sort of construction.

And yeah, do avoid the redo loop if possible! (I totally gave in but I think I had to face that bullet sooner or later, it even feels like a bit of a relief as it starts to sink in).

Haha, no, I live under a rock! I'll assume it's a way less socially conscious version of the ALS bucket challenge. XP



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[Posted by scribblerian on September 16th, 2015, 5:55 pm]


@Oly-RRR: I decided to go ahead and move the conversation onto the next page. I figure I will probably look back on this 3 pages from now and wish I hadn't done the bars and chibis, and want to redo. So might as well do it now!

Yes, I've seen your situation on the forums (I lurk there often). It's so hard. I like to write a lot and I was always making changes to my earlier chapters. I can imagine it must be a lot harder when they are all drawings. I know what you mean about it being a relief though, once you come to terms with it.

Haha the ice bucket challenge is a joke compared to the Kardashian one. I'll spare you the details. Well, I'll say my 11 year old niece tried it and ended up with bruises all over her face, so hey. Though it is nothing compared to the previously mentioned challenges (now removed for the next page).



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[Posted by Oly-RRR on September 16th, 2015, 6:12 pm]


@scribblerian: Good call with the dialogue, I think!

And haha, HAVE YOU BEEN SPYING ON US ALL? Kidding, kidding but do speak up on the forums sometimes when you feel like it, it's fun AND a way to promote your comics if you put the signature in the banner. And yeah, I dunno, I wouldn't get worked up about smaller changes or the general "Boohoo My Art Sucked 3 Years Ago" but a lot about my first chapter was a sort of compromise between what I wanted to write and what I thought people would want to read and I guess I'll have to fix that sooner or later so I'd rather make it sooner. But yeah, I jot down scripts for future chapters all the time and they change a lot and I worry of making a habit out of it but I think comics should be about adapting. I've seen people sticking to scripts they wrote at 16 like they were a gospel and I don't want to do that either.

Oh gosh, I don't mind when teenagers do all that (as long as they don't get killed) but it doesn't sound like something 11 year olds should be doing! D: I'll google it sometime when I'm in the mood for being disappointed with the world, or maybe your story will mention it in more detail later on...



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[Posted by scribblerian on September 16th, 2015, 6:24 pm]


@Oly-RRR: Technically I guess it kind of is spying, isn't it? I do intend to become active on the forums, but I wanted to wait until I get around 10 pages or so done. I don't know why. Cause I'm weird I guess. I just want to fly under the radar until I get a little solid footing, and then I'll make myself known.

I can definitely see how the changes you've been considering would be a relief, then, if it was split between what you want and for the reader. It might be some work but I bet it will be much better (and more satisfying) when you have it the way you want it. I don't even have a script. I have a general idea of what I want to happen. Minor plot points are currently nonexistent. I script one page, draw, color, finish it. Script the next, draw, color finish. Probably not the smart way to go, but I just really wanted to get started instead of spending the next ?? weeks plotting/planning.

I'm relying on new ideas/spinoffs coming to me as I go along, as they tend to do, to create interesting plot points.

My niece... hmmm.. "considers" herself beyond her age. Very into social media, and very taken with the world. A social butterfly, very trendy. So yup, she did that. I don't think an 11 year old should be doing that either (nor a 30 year old for that matter. DUMB!)



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[Posted by Oly-RRR on September 16th, 2015, 8:11 pm]


@scribblerian: Eh, we all have our own quirks! I think I registered on the forum and then went quiet for over a year, and then started talking to Mitchell in comments and decided to return to the forum as well. It's a good way to feel a part of comicking community between posting pages. But I can understand wanting to do it at your own pace! :)

Honestly I'm a bit like that too - it's just characters living in my head, like a big neighbourhood, so I do some planning but there's always future events and new details popping up in my brain. I try to script per chapter (and have synopsis for 2-3 chapters at a time) but this story grows with me and while I hope to avoid huge redraws after this one I just have to get used to comics being flexible growing creatures that can't be planned out ENTIRELY. Besides, we're just being creative in our free time, it's not like we're screwing publishers around, right?

Ah, kids... I wasn't like that, I'm still more behind than ahead when it comes to social stuff. I don't think there's something WRONG with either way, but I just wish people didn't get hurt doing something to seem "cool". D:



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[Posted by scribblerian on September 17th, 2015, 2:06 pm]


@Oly-RRR: Yeah, I feel like I know a bunch of you already just from lurking around. I just feel like I don't have much to say without my comic being decently along. Or like people may not take me seriously because so many new comics don't make it very far. I don't want to just burst in until I've actually got something to show, kwim? I'm fairly talkative (if you can't tell) so I'll definitely be participating soon.

Well, your planning process sounds a bit more together than mine does, but I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is largely pantsing this thing. The part you said about new details and events popping up - I'm relying on that happening pretty heavily. Otherwise I'll keep plugging in the general direction I know I need to head in.

And I'm not like these kids either. I only just recently got a cell phone. Agreed that there is nothing particularly "wrong" with these things, but... sometimes I just feel like the world is so shallow these days.



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[Posted by Oly-RRR on September 19th, 2015, 5:53 pm]


@scribblerian: I know what you mean, about comics that only exist for 3 pages long, but I don't think anyone would judge you for that. Well, not like JUDGE JUDGE, I mean it's sad but these things happen because of multiple factors. It took me AGES to figure out what I want to tell stories about, how I want to do it, and I'm rewriting again but it's the first time it doesn't feel like a proof of a massive failure. I mean I'm a div in general and was all my life but I think it's true what they say that kids should be encouraged to write but 99% of what they write will be crap anyway because they don't know enough of the world or EVEN THEMSELVES (though I don't think it should be told to the kids, I got told that and it I think it slowed me down a lot). But yeah, anyway, drop in the forums when you feel like it! :D

Yeah, details popping up are the best. :D I often feel like ideas are just tossed at me, like I see or hear or read something and it morphs in my head and bingo. It's a good feeling.

I sometimes feel the world is more shallow too! We got selfies and memes and spam from non-existent royal Nigerian relatives and all that stupid junk but we also got better medicine and more accessibility and kinder attitudes and reaching out all across the world to talk at any time so it's not all bad, eh? ;)


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